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William Finck Exposes the Shills, Part 1

 
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Here is the first installment of our answer to Joseph November's appropriately titled "Shiils are us". He is a shill indeed.

It is time for Joseph November to be dragged out of the closet: The Great Impersonation is over.

The original podcast is posted here (from where it can be downloaded):
http://christogenea.org/content/christogenea-saturdays-july-13th-2013-answering-shills-part-1

Here I will answer the lies of Joseph November (aka "Eli James") one step at a time. I will not be able to include everything which I have said in the podcasts, but all of the major points will be addressed.

First, let me state that Eli's biggest complaint about me seems to be what I teach about the origins of the non-Adamic races. But Eli claimed to have read and liked my work before he ever contacted me, which is why he sought to contact me - and he did - while I was still in prison.

If Eli had really read my work, I wonder how he could have missed one of my more popular essays, Broken Cisterns. The following is from Broken Cisterns, Part 2, and it establishes that the things I teach today concerning the origins of the races are the same things which I had been writing, and which Clifton had published, at least as early as 2005.

Broken Cisterns, Part 2 wrote:Jude discusses the “angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation” (v. 6) and to these he compares “Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh” (v. 7) and says “Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward” (v. 11), where it also may be evident that the “way of Cain” too has something to do with fornication. Paul attributes to these same angels the source of false religions, in his own cryptic way, at 1 Cor. 10:20-21 and Col. 2:18 for which one may also refer to Lev. 17:7, Deut. 32:17, Joshua 23:7 and 2 Chron. 11:15, among others. There is no record in all of Scripture of Yahweh creating the other, the non-Adamic, races. Rather, He rejects them time and again (i.e. Matt. 25:31-46). I would assert, by means of logical deduction, that the creators of the non-Adamic races are these same angels which Jude discusses here, boldly accusing those angels of fornication! For which reason Judah’s Canaanite wife is called “the daughter of a strange god” (Mal. 2:11). And Jude goes on to say of these beings whose descendants are obviously among us today: “These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;” (v. 12). The term “twice dead” may be understood by referring to Matt. 23:7, and “plucked up by the roots” by referring to Matt. 15:13.

And what is a “cloud without water”? Dust! For every cloud in the sky consists of little but water vapor mixed with dust particles. And what was Adam before he was endowed with the Spirit of Yahweh? Nothing, but “the dust of the ground” (Gen. 2:7), and so a “cloud without water” is a metaphor for a man without the Spirit of Yahweh: “a broken cistern, that can hold no water!” And Jude continues to call these: “Raging waves of the sea, foaming out of their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.” (v. 13). Surely Jude leaves no room for “converting” any one of them!

Peter corroborates Jude fully, and with very similar language in 2 Peter chapter 2, where he discusses the “angels that sinned” (v. 4), Sodom and Gomorrah (v. 6) and says “But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption ... Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness ... These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.” (vv. 12-17).

Unto this day I stand by what I originally wrote concerning my split with this character, after having worked with him for two years. Here is the article: The Anatomy of my Split with Eli James

In this paper being addressed here, Joseph November complains an awful lot about straw-man arguments. He is a master at creating such arguments: even to the point that it is the primary method for debate which he uses in all of his articles! It was a straw-man argument which first precipitated our split, as I when I proofread for him his first Beast of the Field paper, I warned him not to include such an argument, and he refused to heed my warning.

I will reproduce it in part here, since in a short space it so well illustrates Joseph November's capacity and willingness to lie:

Anatomy of my Split with Eli James wrote:
From Eli's Beast of the Field: wrote:Historically, agriculture did not make its appearance until the days of Adam, which happened around 5,000 BC. Agriculture is not mentioned in Gen. 1. This is a problem for Emahiser’s Recapitulation thesis, because the science of archeology clearly documents the existence of non-agricultural hominids predating THE ADAM. They are called the hunter-gatherers, usually ascribed to the Stone Age. But Clifton does not want to admit that either Whites or non-Whites existed before THE ADAM!!! … Clifton Emahiser has not thought about this.

From Clifton’s perspective, Nachash is the very first two-legged beast, since all non-Whites would have descended from him. If Nachash is the ONLY two-legged beast on the planet on the 6th day, then we come back to the old problem of “Where did Cain get his wife from?”


Here again, Eli has not only changed the nature of the argument, but he has mischaracterized Clifton's teachings and he has once again placed words into Clifton's mouth. His attempt to do this is obviously – to me – an attempt to discredit Clifton in the minds of his readers, purposely trying to make him look foolish, in order to gain an advantage for his own agenda.

Here are some quotes from two of Clifton's Teaching Letters, elucidating Clifton's position on this matter, where Clifton clearly explains that there were many races of people (for want of a better word) before Adam:

Clifton's WTL #113: wrote:The "serpent" of Genesis 3 is a member of that race of angels which revolted from Yahweh God, and were cast out into the earth, as described in Revelation chapter 12. We are not told when this happened, but can only imagine that it happened some time before Adam, but during the latter ages of creation. The fossil record shows that there were many races of humans here before Adam, the first Aryan White man, such as Neanderthal man, Cro-Magnon man, etc., any one of which may have been of that race of angels. Throughout Scripture angels appear as men, and are often even indistinguishable from men (i.e. Gen 18:1-33; 19:1-14).

Clifton's WTL #113 was published in mid-2007, over three years before Joseph November's article, and Clifton had expounded on the same topic on numerous other occasions. Therefore pretending to know and to speak for what Clifton has written, Joseph November is a liar without excuse.

Here we shall proceed with Joseph November's slander:

Joseph November wrote:Judgment Day Perspectives Newsletter  June 13, 2013
 
"Shills R Us"  An Investigative Report on the 5 Most Influential Moles Within Christian Identity
 
http :// www. anglo- saxonisrael. com/content/ shills-r-us
 
Which "teacher of Yahweh" is a counterfeiter, fornicator, and hate-monger?
Which two are child molesters pretending to be CI?
Which one is a racketeer, pretending to be CI?
Which one is a murderer, false accuser and provocateur?
 
Get to know them up close and personal.
 
"Compromise will make your path easier, until you find out that you've gone down the wrong path.,  - Pastor Eli James
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"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." - Matt. 7:15.
 
An Excerpt from the Report:
 William Finck, Master of Talmudic Deception

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My first on-air analysis of Finck’s Extermination Thesis was that this “theology” is designed to destroy Christian Identity.  [Here is the link to that show on 1/23/2011:  http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/ta ... ageSize=15 ]  The destruction of our Movement will be caused by the repugnance decent White people will feel when confronted with the idea that Yahweh hates the other races.  What BF (Bill Finck) has done is to develop a theology of a purely racial supremacism, by claiming that Yahweh hates the other races as much as He hates Edomites.   But this doctrine is devoid of scriptural backing.  The Bible teaches Dominion Theology, which is based upon us White Israelites serving Him by obeying His Laws.  By perverting the meaning of “All Israel will be saved,” William Finck also teaches that obedience is unnecessary.  The color of our skin is all that is necessary for Whites to qualify for the promised Kingdom.
            I have documented Finck’s distortionist tactics in “William Finck, Race-Traitor,” on ASI, so there is no need to go into any great detail about that.  I will, however, cite a few examples of Finck’s skill at spinning facts into Pharisaic lies.



Every clown with and agenda uses the statement by Christ found at Matthew 7:15 to support his point. Joseph November is all bravado, and no substance.

Jews love projecting their own methods and devices onto their enemies. It is Joseph November who employs talmudic deception.

In March of this year Sword Brethren and I did a program, The Universalism of Eli James. In it we made no ad hominem attacks, nor did we question Joseph November's Jewish heritage, his background or his character. Rather, we stayed with the issues and the facts, supported by Joseph November's own words which we meticulously and authentically reproduced, and we addressed those alone.

But Joseph November has never answered those issues. Rather, he has responded with ad hominem assaults, attacks on my personality and character and background, a lot of diversions, and he has avoided the issues which we raised in that program. That program has over 3500 downloads as of this posting, from Christogenea alone, and therefore Joseph November can avoid the issues all he wants, however they shall nevertheless be heard.

Am I a race traitor simply for exposing Joseph November? All I did was post links to articles that were public records, records which Joseph November himself created when he registered a legal business with Cook County Illinois which was named "Eli James Publishing". Since then he has eschewed his own real name and he has operated as "Eli James".

Here is the proof, at Manta.com: http://www.manta.com/c/mtmf677/eli-james-publishing
Here is more, from the Chicage Tribune: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-12-27/business/0412270207_1_chicago-cook-county-naperville

"Eli James" does not exist. The character's real name is Joseph November, who is the principal of "Eli James Publishing". If he did not lie about his name, we would not have to point this out. "Eli James Publishing" is a business entity approved as a business name by the Cook County government. It is therefore a government-approved fiction.

Clifton Emahiser appropriately calls this "Flying Under False Colors". No other prominent Christian Identity pastor does this. Comparet, Swift, Weiland, Jones, Barley, Emry, Capt, Rand, Emahiser, Gale, Peters, Elmore, Downey, Lent, Gregg, they ALL use, or used, their real names. Why is Joseph November better than any of them?

If Joseph November were really trying to hide his true identity he would never have registered his alias as a business, a matter which is published on many public websites as a matter of business. That way HE connected the name "Joseph P. November" to the alias, "Eli James", in a way that cannot be denied since it is listed in offical records of the State of Illinois. Therefore Joseph November is a self-traitor: he told on himself! In reality, he only did it to hide his true identity as a person with the name November, which is not a Christian name, from unsuspecting Identity Christians! How am I a race traitor for exposing this? Why isn't Joe November simply honest about who he is? And is he the standard bearer for the entire White race, where I am a race traitor for telling the truth? In truth, Joseph November is an arrogant bastard and Yahweh will judge him as such.

Joseph November wrote: For example, here is Finck’s version of my show with two black men.  http://zogbots.org/content/walk-animals
            Finck claims that I was trying to convert these non-Whites, accusing me of “casting pearls before swine.” The fact is that my only purpose in going on this particular show was to explain to their Black audience that the Jews are the true enemies of all races.  Contrary to Finck’s accusations, I had no intention of converting any Blacks to Christianity, nor did I try to.  When I had scheduled this appearance, it was to be with the main host.  But on the night of the show, someone else ran the show, as the main host had become sick.

 

My comments on Joseph November's having appeared with these negroes was also posted here on this forum: http://forum.christogenea.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=3194&p=7996&hilit=stanley#p7996

I never said Joe November was trying to convert negroes. Joe has created a straw-man argument. I only said that he was arguing Christian Identity with negroes, and if one listens to the recording of his program, that is absolutely true. But I never said he was trying to "convert" them: that is a lie, and an obvious one at that. Joseph November created that lie, so as to magnify what I said about him, so he could easily discredit it. He is adept at manufacturing straw-man arguments.

Joseph November wrote:            I was explaining to their listeners that the Jews, not Whites, are their real oppressors.  If more Blacks understood this fact, they would be less likely to rape White women and attack White males.  In no way did I ever argue, as August Kreis did with the Muslims, that Whites and Blacks should unify.   In no way was I trying to convert non-Whites to our religion.  This is all distortion by the Finckaholics.   My only purpose in appearing on a show hosted by Blacks was to explain to them that we Whites are NOT their oppressors.  Finck and his crew of false accusers utterly misrepresent the reason for my appearance on that show.  Apparently, trying to lessen the crime being committed against Whites by Blacks is “universalism.”

I am not going to pontificate on Joseph November's utopian pipe-dream about training negroes to like Whites and hate jews. I do not even want negroes liking me. However as for my hating the so-called other races: this is another straw-man argument. Simply because I tell the truth about Scripture, does not necessarily mean that I hate the so-called "other races". November is creating that argument and putting it into my mouth: he is a straw-man afficiando! Likewise, I have never advocated any act of violence, as November claims that I do, so again November is found to be a liar.

Finckaholics, is that a Christian appelation for Joseph November's critics? "Finck and his crew of false accusers": Joseph November acts as if all of his critics are mindless drones who simply follow me. I do not want followers, and I do not compel anyone. My listeners can think for themselves and make their own decisions on how to pass judgment.

Joseph November wrote:   If you read the essays of Bertrand Comparet, Dr. Wesley Swift, Arnold Kennedy, Howard, B. Rand, Dan Gayman, Willie Martin and virtually all the others, hatred towards non-Whites is either completely absent or negligible.  CI has never been about hating the other races.  It is only about loving our own Race and our Father, Yahweh, and His Son, Yahshua.

But William Finck has raised the art of racial hatred to the level of dogma.

Again Joseph November is lying. Bertrand Comparet taught the same thing which I do concerning the fate of the other races at the return of Yahshua Christ. The proof is in his paper, Gathering the Tares.

Bertrand Comparet, Gathering the Tares wrote:...
Yahweh’s own household, the children of the kingdom, are the good seed sown in the world. Their loyalty is never swayed by materialistic, atheistic socialism, whether you call it a New Deal, New Horizons, or just plain communism. Living among them is another group to whom the things of the spirit have no appeal. During this age these two groups have grown up together and in their early growth, it has been sometimes hard to tell them apart.

However, as the time of the harvest approaches, so also is the end of this age near. We, who study our Bibles, know that this time is near at hand. In the harvest, the good seed and the bad seed, the children of the kingdom and the children of the wicked one, will be separated. Note that the first part of the harvest consists of this separation, for Yahshua said, “Gather ye first the tares and bind them in bundles to bum them.” This takes place before the harvest of the wheat, the good seed. Gathering the tares into bundles is a very clear and logical simile for gathering the children of the wicked one into groups or organizations. It serves very well as a means to separate and distinguish between the two families.
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Yahweh foresaw this as it is told in Psalm 83:1-4. “Keep not thou silence O Yahweh: hold not thy peace and be not still O Yahweh. For lo, Thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate Thee have lifted up their heads. They have taken crafty counsel against Thy people, and consulted against Thy hidden ones. They have said, come, and let us cut them off from being a nation.” All their ambitions, their ideals and purposes are completely adverse to ours and to all that we hold dear. Notice that Yahweh classifies them as not merely our enemies, but His enemies as they are those that hate Him.

This gathering of the individual tares among us is exactly parallel to the similar gathering of the beast nations in this same judgment. Yahshua prophesied it in Matthew 25:31-34, 41. “When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then shall He sit upon the throne of His glory: And before Him shall be gathered all nations: and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: and He shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. ... Then shall He say unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.” Of course there must be a division, separation, and discrimination, to say it plainly. This is the purpose for which Yahshua came. In Luke 12:51 Yahshua says, “Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you nay: but rather division.”
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Comparet clearly held that the "beast nations" had the same fate in the same judgment as the "tares"! Joseph November is therefore a liar, and does the works of his father (John 8:44).